Episode 24 – Coping With The Loss Of A Friend

Dr. Shawn Scholten from Creative Living Center interviews normal host Piet Westerbeek about the loss of his friend Roger Broek, for whom this program is named after


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Episode 72 – Kyle Post/CISM

Kyle Post, a member of the Critical Incident Stress Management (CISM) team, joins Dr. Shawn & Piet and provides suprising statistics