Katie Vander Zwaag from Creative Living Center provides advice on how to be empathetic to someone who is struggling.


If you are having immediate thoughts of suicide, please pick up your phone and
call 988 or 855-581-8111 or text 855-895-8398
and a trusted and caring individual would love to talk with you.

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Episode 72 – Kyle Post/CISM

Kyle Post, a member of the Critical Incident Stress Management (CISM) team, joins Dr. Shawn & Piet and provides suprising statistics